More things you really shouldn't say, but might be glad that someone else did |
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1.
Skeptical Scientist (Part
2):
Listen, I didn’t come here to be insulted. BE (feigning
sympathy): I
know, I know... (Suddenly)
but you really came here to insult me, and
I’ll have none of that! SS: You like doing this to
people, don’t
you? You’re
just a regular Don Rickles. BE: Well, the difference
between me and Don
Rickles is that where I’d call you an over-educated,
uncivilized
knuckle-dragging australopithecus man, he’d be content to
just say you’re a
hockey puck. SS (grinning):
Australopithecus, huh?
I thought you Christians didn’t believe in
cavemen. BE: What I actually said was
that 2.
Gay Rights Activist:
I don’t see how you think you can judge me for expressing my true self.
After all, I was born with the gay gene, so I
can’t deny who I am. BE (pulls up the
front of
his shirt just enough to reveal numerous extra pounds):
See this? GRA (obviously repulsed by the sight): Ewww!
What about it? GRA: Huh? BE: If you look back over my
family’s history,
you’ll see a lot of overweight people on both sides. You’ll also see
hypertension, diabetes, heart
disease, and... GRA: But what’s that
got to do with anything? BE: Well, simply that I was
born to be fat. That’s
who I am, and that’s probably who I’ll
always be. GRA: Look, that’s
totally different. You
can do a little exercising, and learn to
eat right, and you can lose that extra weight, if you try hard
enough... and if
you want to. BE: No, really I
can’t. It’s
in my genetics. I’ve
already told you it’s in my family. GRA: But you can overcome that. It just takes some
discipline. BE: So you’re saying
that I can overcome my
genetic predisposition to being fat. GRA: Well, it’s up to
you. BE: But you’re
tendency toward a same-sex
preference, which you say is who you are and is due to your genetic
make-up, is... GRA: Wait a minute, wait a
minute. I see what
you’re getting at; and this is
totally different. BE: How, exactly? GRA: Because there’s
just nothing wrong with being
gay. BE: And there’s
nothing wrong with being
overweight, either. GRA: But don’t you
believe that your body is a
temple? BE: Yes, the Bible calls the
body the temple of
the Holy Spirit; or I guess in my case, it’s more like a
whole cathedral. GRA (not looking very amused): Yeah, funny.
So shouldn’t you keep it fit to do your
thing for God or whatever? BE: If you mean by keeping it
fit that I should
avoid sexual relationships with people whom God has said not to, then
maybe... GRA: No, no, losing weight is a
matter of being
healthy. Don’t
you want to be healthy? BE: Of course—but I
can’t because of my family
history… it’s just who I am. GRA: No, no, that’s
just different. BE: OK, I’ll make
you a deal. I’ll
admit that I don’t want to apply
discipline to my appetite for food, and you admit that you
don’t want to apply
discipline to your sexual appetite, and we’ll call it even. 3.
Northeastern Atheist (Part
2):
I just can’t see how you can hold on to
some archaic belief in some
archaic gahhd when there’s so much scientific evidence to the
cahhntrary. How can
you believe in anything beyond
nature? BE:
Science doesn’t necessarily contradict the
existence of God. If
God is understood as a super-natural
being, then He, by
definition, transcends anything that lies in the realm of nature. Science is bound by the
laws and limits of
nature and logic, but God operates on a different plane altogether. NA: But wouldn’t it
make sense that any being
which we might perceive as a gahhd would be no more than some advanced
alien
life form which had evolved beyond our understanding of what the
natural
boundaries are and... BE: Yeah, yeah, I’ve
heard it all
before—Ezekiel’s prophecy was just a visit from E.
T. NA: But can you sincerely deny
the possibility. BE: I can admit that it (with the finger motions)
“makes sense,” but it isn’t necessarily
the correct, or the only explanation. NA: So you admit
it’s plausible? BE: Not when you know who and
what God really
is. Any god of your
description is only
a being at a higher level of natural-ness, but he would still fall
short of
being super-natural in the true
sense
of the definition of the word. Maybe
you
should be paying attention to one of your more credible scientific
voices. NA (smirking):
Who?
You mean there’s someone we can both agree
on as credible? BE: Sure.
Dr. Brian Greene, professor of physics and
mathematics at NA (surprised):
Don’t tell me you read stuff like that! BE: No, I saw him on David
Letterman one
night. (NA chuckles as BE continues.)
Right before the end of the segment, Letterman asked
if all this
scientific knowledge we have today just kicks the idea of God right out
the
window. Greene’s
answer was to explain
that science deals with the “nuts and bolts” of how
things work, but that any
questions about “why” or “what does it
all mean” are better left to
philosophers and religion scholars.
Judging from that statement he seemed to understand
that there are some
questions that science just isn’t supposed to deal with. NA: Sahhnds to me like he just
didn’t want to
offend religious people that might have been watching. BE: Or more likely he
genuinely didn’t want to
leave out the possibility that there are some things that are outside
the
limits of scientific understanding. NA: But with the cahhnstant
discoveries science is
continually making, how can there be a limit to it? BE: Not a limit in terms of
how much can be
learned, but more in terms of boundaries around what types of knowledge
can be
learned through science and the means that it uses.
I just think that it should be obvious that
science doesn’t cover everything. NA: What’s ahhbvious
is that given all that we
now know, we shouldn’t need to believe in some archaic gahhd. BE: So, when this God shows up
from somewhere
totally off your scientific radar screen, it’ll come as a
complete surprise to
you that your naturalism is what’s archaic. 4.
Guru Wannabe:
I just believe that all rivers lead to the BE:
Ouch!! Sounds
like you never took
a class in geography! GW: What do you mean? It’s just an
illustration. BE: But it’s one
that actually demonstrates how
flawed your point is. GW: No, it
doesn’t--my point isn’t flawed. BE: Have you ever heard of the
Continental
Divide? GW: I’ve heard of
it, yes. But what... BE: Do you know what it is? GW: Doesn’t it have
something to do with the time
zones? BE: No, no.
It’s a geographic feature which determines
which way the rainfall runs
off of a land mass, and separates a continent according to how its
river
systems flow. GW: Huh? BE: On this continent, all the
rain that falls
east of the continental divide eventually runs off in the eastern
rivers into
the GW: So what’s that
got to do with God? BE: Not much, really. But it has everything to
do with your analogy
and how flawed your reasoning is. GW: Well, analogies
don’t prove anything. BE: No, they don’t,
and that’s good for you;
because if they did, your analogy would prove the exact opposite of
what you’re
trying to say! GW: Well, I don’t
know about all that—I just know
that all rivers lead to the BE (rolling his eyes):
OK, but I just hope you make it to the right
side of the divide when the time comes for you to wash away into one
ocean or
the other. 5.
Post-modern Relativist
(Part 2):
How can you make the statement that there are
absolute good and absolute
evil? There are two
sides to every
story, you know; so what things might be evil for you might be good for
someone
else—in another culture, perhaps. BE:
Are you absolutely sure that there are no absolutes? Absolutely none? PR: Very funny.
What I mean is that what is right for you in your
life might not work
for everybody else. In
other words,
everything moral is relative. BE: I’m just glad I
didn’t get you to put
electricity in my house. PR: What’s that got
to do with it? BE: Because some switches are
analog, and some
are digital—in other words, there are places where you want a
circuit to be
simply on or off, which is digital; and a few where you’d
want a fader switch,
which would be analog. A
wise
electrician knows that some of each type are called for—and
that’s just like in
life. Some things
are either on or off,
while some are relative; you just have to know which is appropriate. PR: Still, what’s
that got to do with anything? BE: I think you believe in
some moral absolutes
and just aren’t willing to admit it. PR: No, I think that under the
right
circumstances any moral view could shift from unacceptable to
acceptable,
depending on the situation. The
same
rules just don’t apply to everybody. BE: Now I’m just a
little confused—this could
apply to any issue of morality? PR: Yeah, sure… BE: Even rape? PR: Well, I… BE (interrupting):
So, how would that work?
Is it that there are some people that it’s
OK
to rape and not others? Or
maybe that
some people shouldn’t be blamed because they can’t
help being a rapist? Or
in some other cultures… PR (interrupting back):
Come on, that’s not what I mean. BE: Uhhh, yes it is. PR: Now, don’t get
off the subject. BE: Oh, so rape has nothing to
do with morality? PR (quietly frustrated):
That’s not my point.
Morality is a broader and more complicated
issue than any of that. BE: You don’t really
have a point then, because rape
is absolutely wrong and immoral in every single circumstance. And that’s just
one example out of many where
morality has certain absolutes that just aren’t up for
discussion, end of
story. 6.
Drugged-out Philosopher
(Part 2):
Aw, man, you’re just trying to put me on
some kind of a guilt trip, man. BE:
Well, you know I have a good reason for that. DP: What’s that? BE: It’s because you
really are guilty.
Everybody’s guilty of something, and
it’s high time you face up to
yours. DP: Hey, man, you’ve
got no right to tell somebody
that! Nobody does! BE: Then why do people go to
see psychiatrists? DP: Hey, psychiatrists
don’t do that stuff to
people. BE: And that’s too
bad. Because
that’s what people really need, and
that’s what they go for in the first place. DP: No, they
don’t—they go for help. BE: But sadly, they
don’t get any help, because
psychiatrists won’t make them face up to their guilt like
they ought to. DP: But that’s not
good for them, man. BE (feigning empathy):
Poor Freud.
Poor, poor Freud. DP: What? BE: Freud wants you to blame
everybody but
yourself. He wants
you to blame your
mama, your neighbors, the system, your environment... DP: Well, sometimes those can
make you do crazy
things. BE (continuing after the interruption): just blame everyone but
yourself. No way
he’s going to let you take
responsibility for your own actions. DP: Hey, but you
can’t always help what you do
sometimes. BE: Well, maybe not you with
all that stuff up
your nose. But for
the rest of us who
are sober and alert, we can make our own choices about what to do or
not do. DP: But sometimes, like, if
you fall in love, you
know. You
can’t always help that. BE: Well, maybe you
can’t help feeling an
emotion, but you can help what you do about it.
You just have to let your head be in charge and not
follow every strange
palpitation of your heart. DP: But hey, sometimes you
still have to listen
to your gut. BE: Yeah, listen to it, but
don’t be stupid. Use
your head, and don’t let your gut push
you into doing something that’s just not smart. DP (becoming a little angry): And don’t let
you push me into feeling
guilty! BE: Hey, I didn’t do
the crime, and I’m not going
to have to do the time. DP: Well, I didn’t
do no crime neither! BE: Is that why
you’re getting so upset?
Or are you really guilty of things you just
won’t face up to? DP: I don’t have to
answer to you for nothing! |